Here’s the second part of my interview with the wonderful Brenton–this one looks at the course of writing careers, at publishing, at rewriting etc. It really has been one of the most enjoyable interviews I’ve ever had!
Publishing business
Working with an editor
Note: This post of mine is reposted from Writer Unboxed, where it was published yesterday. On the WU site, you can also scroll down after the post to see comments, and can add your own. Hope you enjoy!
Working with an editor, by Sophie Masson
I’m just at the very end of the editing process for an upcoming novel of mine, and it’s got me thinking again about the extraordinary job of an editor, and how it’s such a wonderful thing working with them to unearth the final shape and polish of your creation. In my many years as a published author, with many books out there, I can count on less than the fingers of one hand the numbers of times I’ve had a less than good experience with editors. In my experience, they are dedicated, meticulous, intelligent, discreet yet honest professionals who respect both the creative work they are editing and the principles of their craft. In some cases, depending on the book, they’ve helped me to unlock a knotty problem of narrative; or saved me from a continuity error; or helped to polish a less-than-perfect phrase so that it shines as it was intended to.
Because I’m a writer whose first drafts are quite strong—mostly because in fact they are only first drafts in theory, as when I am writing I tend to go over the chapter I wrote the day before I start on the next chapter, and at the end of the week go over again the chapters I’ve written—I tend often not to get big structural edits, but rather more of a light going-over to check structure, then move straight into the first copy-editing. This is quite a forensic process, looking at every aspect of language, as well as continuity, errors of timing or description, and awkward phrasing, rather than plot architecture or characterization overview. It’s about detail, not big picture, and I love this stage, working with the editor to bring out the very best of the details in my novel, so that they can highlight and illuminate my story and my characters. I don’t always agree with the editor; sometimes I will decline a change, and explain my reasons; sometimes, too, the editor’s comments help to inspire me to find a new, different solution. Mostly, though, I agree with their suggestions, because they are based on such a close and careful reading of my work.
The first copy-edit is usually followed by one or two more copy-edits, then the proof, then final pages, each of which is sent to me for review. And each time, as the files go back and forth, something is caught by the editor, some tiny thing that slipped through in the first stages, or some tiny tweak that just gives that final, final buffing of polish. It’s a meticulous but also exhilarating process, as I go through the stages and each time there’s an improvement to my book, no matter how small or subtle. And that goes both for the long works, like novels, and the short works, like picture books (which can in my experience go through as many edits as a novel).
I know that there can be problems with writer/editor relationships; I know that sometimes they aren’t a good fit. In my own career, as I mentioned earlier, there have been a vanishingly small number of times when I haven’t felt comfortable about a particular editing experience and I’ve had to fight a particular interpretation quite strongly. But for the overwhelming majority of my books, working with the editor has been both pleasurable and challenging in the best way—the way that knows that in order for your book to be the best it can be, then you need to be able to see your work objectively, which is exactly the gift that the editor’s skill offers. The irony of course is that a good editor’s work is invisible to the reader–and yet its absence would be all too visible. So three cheers for editors all over—without whom both writers and readers would suffer!

Pleased to be part of HNSA Winter Online Program
I’ve very pleased to be part of the lineup of presenters for the Historical Novel Society of Australasia’s excellent Winter Online Workshop Program, which starts on July 1. There’s a fabulous array of workshops on all kinds of aspects of historical fiction on offer, from a wonderful array of presenters. My own workshop is on what publishers are looking for, when it comes to historical fiction, whether for adults or kids: a practical, informative and also fun look at how you might maximise your chances as a writer, of attracting the publisher’s eye.
You can see the array of workshops, including mine, here.
Looking forward to the High Country Writers’ Festival!
Next Saturday, I’ll be heading to Glen Innes for the High Country Writers’ Festival, where I’ll be presenting a workshop on creating children’s books, based on Inside Story: the wonderful world of writing, illustrating and publishing children’s books, which I was involved in writing. I’m really looking forward to it! The workshop is two hours long and features a talk, Q and A, and hands on activity. You can get tickets for the workshop here.
The rest of the program is great too, with sessions on true crime, historical fiction, how to get a book project back on track, and more. See the full program here. Concurrently with the Festival also is the High Country Writers’ Retreat.

Great review of Inside Story in Magpies!
Delighted to see a wonderful review of Inside Story (for which I was one of the principal writers and compilers) in the latest issue of the prestigious children’s literature publication, Magpies Magazine. See below.
There’s also, in the same issue, a three-page interview with me and Kathy Creamer, another of the main writers/compilers, about how the book was created and produced. Not available online, but you can check out Magpies Magazine subscriptions here: for anyone interested in Australian and New Zealand children’s books, Magpies is an absolute must!
Looking forward to the Dubbo Writers’ Festival!
I am much looking forward to the Dubbo Writers’ Festival, which is on this coming weekend, 9-11 September, in Dubbo of course! The theme is ‘Shorts’–with a feast of practical workshops on short fiction, short poetry, short blog posts, as well as consultations with publishers, an In-Conversation, and a ‘submissions spur’. I’m presenting at several events, see below. You can get tickets and the full program via this link here.
Friday Sept 9:


Saturday:


Sunday will be the Submissions Spur, 2-4pm.

Crowdfunding campaign to launch Pardalote Press
Exciting news! The wonderful illustrator Lorena Carrington and I have established Pardalote Press, a tiny Press making small surprising things. We’ve launched a crowdfunding campaign this morning to support our first two projects, Bird’s Eye View and Wayfarer. Bird’s Eye View is a chapbook of words—poetry and prose—and black and white images, which together form glimpses into the world of birds, and the world as seen by birds. Wayfarer is a unique set of sixteen beautiful full colour cards which in words and pictures take you on a journey of mystery, magic and meaning.
The campaign is to raise funds towards production and printing of the projects. We hope you might be interested in having a look! Here’s the direct link: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pardalote-press-launch#/
You can learn more about the Press and our first two projects on our website, and social media: Facebook and Instagram. There’s also a great little news item about it at Books+Publishing. And here below are a few words from Lorena and I, extracted from that article, as to why we started Pardalote Press:
It was in fact a mock medieval bestiary—published as an appendix to our joint book Magical Tales from French Camelot—which first made us think of the idea of working on unusual little projects. We started with the idea of Bird’s Eye View, and then, later, came the idea for Wayfarer.
We knew these were a bit too left-field to fit into mainstream publishing lists, so decided to create our own tiny press to produce them and other things we might come up with.
So–do check us out, have a look, and if you are interested, we would be very grateful for your support in the launch of this tiny press making small surprising things to help the imagination take flight!

Republishing in print of three of my fantasy novels
I’m very pleased to announce that Cold Iron, The Green Prince and The Firebird, my three YA fantasy novels that were originally selected for the fabulous Untapped project and republished as ebooks available to buy and borrow, will now also be republished in print, by Brio Books/Booktopia. The books were originally published in the late 90’s and early 2000’s, and were popular with readers, so it’s wonderful to see them acquire a new lease of life in both print and e-editions. And just look at their striking new print covers, below! (You can also see a link to the page for each book, under its cover.) The novels are being published over July, August and September this year within the Untapped series, which includes lots of other wonderful, previously out of print books by a large range of fantastic Australian authors, both for adults and young adults. You can check out the whole series here. All books are available to be pre-ordered now.



What’s inside Inside Story? Check this out!
There’s only two days left till the end of the crowdfunding campaign for Inside Story: the wonderful world of writing, illustrating and publishing children’s books, the wonderful non-fiction book about Australian children’s books which I’m involved in compiling. And UPA Books have created a great little video which gives you a bit of a glimpse into what you can expect to find in this unique, informative and beautiful book. Have a look–it’s worth checking out!
Crowdfunding campaign for Inside Story!
I’m very pleased to announce the launch of the crowdfunding campaign for a unique and wonderful book I’m involved in, as part of the writing and production team–Inside Story: the wonderful world of writing, illustrating and publishing children’s books.
Inside Story will be a full colour illustrated book, an invaluable resource and guide for aspiring writers, illustrators, editors and designers, but also of great appeal to anyone interested in the wonderful world of Australian children’s books. Commissioned by the New England Writers’ Centre, with the support of Create NSW, it is being produced and published by UPA Books, the collaborative imprint newly launched by United Publishers of Armidale partners Christmas Press and Little Pink Dog Books, working with a team of local professional writers, illustrators, designers, and editors. Contributions from other creatives and professionals–writers, illustrators, editors, designers, agents, publishers, booksellers and reviewers- from across the country are also included. The book will be published under the UPA Books banner in May 2022.
The crowdfunding campaign is to raise funds for printing, marketing etc.
Here’s the direct link to the campaign, which includes a video, lots of good FAQs, and all details of perks etc:
There are great perks available for campaign backers, including, of course, copies of the book. Regular updates on progress of the book will be posted on the campaign page. The crowdfunding campaign will end on Dec 2.
And here below is the fabulous video to introduce the crowdfunding campaign, and the project itself. Hope you might consider joining us!

